MITCHELL CLARKE
Do you have any idea at what stage of the evening that conversation took place?
PHYLLIS FRANKS
The police asked me the same thing. I told them at the time that I thought it was around nine thirty. I haven’t remembered anything since then that would lead me to change that.
LAILA FURNESS
So that’s relatively early on. Could she have slipped out and come back later without anyone noticing?
PHYLLIS FRANKS
Oh absolutely. There was a crowd in the pergola round the back smoking, for a start. People were going in and out all the time.
LAILA FURNESS
And she was definitely there at the end of the evening?
PHYLLIS FRANKS
Yes, I’m very sure about that, because the police came looking for her. It must have been around eleven thirty.
MITCHELL CLARKE
But you hadn’t spoken to her yourself since nine thirty – you don’t know if her mood had changed?
PHYLLIS FRANKS
No. Though I think someone told me later she’d been looking rather pale. Before the police arrived, I mean. Clearly she was looking very distressed when she left.
MITCHELL CLARKE
You don’t know who it was who said that? About her looking pale?
PHYLLIS FRANKS
I’m afraid not. As I told the police.
LAILA FURNESS
And no one mentioned seeing her looking like she’d been out in the rain? It was raining by the end of the evening, wasn’t it?
PHYLLIS FRANKS
God yes, absolutely pouring down. But no, I didn’t. I did notice she had mud and little bits of grass on her shoes when she left. She was wearing very high heels – cream, they were, positively bridal, so I suppose the dirt stood out.
LAILA FURNESS
Wouldn’t that suggest she’d been outside?
PHYLLIS FRANKS
Well, there was that grass area at the back I just mentioned, so if she’d gone out there for a ciggie that might account for it.
MITCHELL CLARKE
And we do know she smoked.